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Somehow figure a way to make a straight bow with zero string height and no set, but which can still be gripped and shot with accuracy and comfort. The benefits: If no or low set, and zero or near...

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It will need to be centreshot to avoid massive paradox?Rod.

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The bows have already been made by Adam Karpo.... (SP??). They were short and the biggest difficulty he had was finding staves that he could manipulate into the handle shape he needed. The article is...

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Rod, and ionian, those were both of the issues that came up last night when Tim and I were talking, browsing through some not so straight tree limbs could very well hold a stav just like Tim is...

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i think the stonebow handle design with two lightweight bows might have something to give to this challenge will ponder will play around with it and reporti can get 3 inch fistemeles with regular and...

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pics of handle www.meke717.anewbowdesign...hare.co.nzmaybe a little wider so the vertical handle ccan be more to right

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The wrist slap will be incredible, Tim. As for the statement as to whether you and Badger are odd... Jawgehttp://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni

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On the Discovery show "Going Tribal" I saw a lot of bows with really low brace hieght, in both Africa and South America. They did not draw them far and must have incountered tremendous wrist slap. The...

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George, Tim is just incredibly hard headed, I just don't what it's gonna take for him to start seeing things my way!! Steve

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Many skins, so far every design that I have looked at had some ingenius aspect to it, sometimes it was a matter of overcomming weak wood, or whatever, but I am sure the design you saw has some reason...

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Manyskins, unlike the bows mentioned here, the ones you are refering to are usually made of weak wood and are under very little tension at brace.

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Ionian: Archery trivia: per the above comments about Steve and I arguing, and the benefits: Adam Karpowicz and I were having a multi-day energetic argument about energy storage and limb shape. He came...

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Tim, I don't understand. What is the problem with the forward grip? Other then the right stave would be difficult to find.

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ionian: Mainly that you loose several inches of true draw length. And tillering becomes more complicated, or constructin more complicated than for a simple straight bow. Tim

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I am currently drying a short lilac stave growing with a natural protruding handle and a deflex-reflex shape..... Quite common with gnarly whitewoods

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Manyskins,I was going to say exactly the same as you. I have seen and shot amazonian bows that had very little or no set and practically zero brace height. String breakage was a problem and the archer...

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Here's funky handle for a short bow. Not sure if it'll be accepted as strait stave though.

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Oh, I guess Tim rejected this. Never mind.Short of drilling a hole in the handle I can't think of a way to get around the paradox problem.Catch the pun? Around the paradox . Just like the arrow has to...

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I think I may be considering a possible idea. Would require shooting slightly differently. Will post pics within the next few days as sometimes what I'm trying to describe comes all out wrong confused...

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That would solve the question of paradox if the handle was far forward enough to simulate a decent brace height, but the string is only in contact at the tips so it doesn't really qualify....

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It looks very noisy!

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